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The night before last, one of my smoke detectors chirped and woke me up. Then it chirped again. That normally indicates a low battery.

I stood in the hallway to pinpoint which unit it was coming from, but no more chirps. I tested them, and each beeped like it should. I finally removed all their batteries to keep from being woken up again. (I hate doing that, but I need my sleep.) Per my little battery meter, the batteries were all still good. But per my notes on when I last changed batteries, it is quite possible one or more are low by now.

The next day I put the batteries back in and waited all day for another chirp. None of them confessed.

But I read that you should replace smoke detectors every 10 years. Mine are about 20 years old. So now I'm looking to buy replacements.

My existing alarms are not hard-wired, and I don't want to add wiring.
The ones with a built-in 10-year battery sound good; I wouldn't have to keep buying expensive 9V batteries and go through this rigamarole as often.

But then on Reddit I read how many people had these 10-year units fail much sooner, within 2 years or so. Maybe cleaning them by blowing air in them fixes it, or maybe not. Do any of you have experience with these 10-year units, good or bad? What brand?

Smoke detectors also come in 2 types, photo-electric and ionization, or dual. One of my old ones is dual. But so far I didn't find any dual-type ones with the 10-year battery.

Update:
From what I've read, both the "Kidde" and "First Alert" brand 10-year smoke detectors can't be temporarily turned off once they are initially activated. You can deactivate them (at their end of life) but then you can't turn them back on.
So if one starts acting up in the middle of the night, I wouldn't even be able to turn it off temporarily to deal with it the next day.
Also, from what I read, both brands have had problems with units failing after only one or 2 years.

So I'll instead get ones similar to my existing units, where you replace the batteries every so often. At least with them I can remove the batteries like I did the other night.

Date: 2024-11-04 12:43 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] frith
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My previous (Canadian Tire) fire alarm would go off most times that I made toast. That was fine because it meant the fire detection aspect was working. My replacement fire detector doesn't do that, but the battery is fine. That's less than ideal.

Date: 2024-11-04 01:23 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] frith
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The Americium-241 in ionization-type smoke detectors has a half life of 432.2 years. I note that the US National Fire Protection Association requires that smoke detectors be replaced ten years after the manufacture date, no reason is given. In California, smoke detectors with replaceable batteries are banned. I find this highly suspect. The only beneficiary of throwing out fully functional household appliances is the manufacturer and the businesses selling them.

Date: 2024-11-05 02:35 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] frith
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Of course no one has a can of "smoke alarm test spray" on hand. 9_9 Maybe a candle held below the smoke alarm will do. Burning some upholstery foam would be like overkill but at least that would be easier to obtain than a can of simulated smoke.

For an ionization chamber type smoke detector to fail, the contact with the battery would have to corrode to the point that power was no longer going to the detector, at which point pressing the 'test' button would not work either. The alarm goes off when smoke interferes with the ionized particles and cuts the circuit maintained by the radioactive Americium. See https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/smoke-detectors.html If the charged plates in the chamber fail, the alarm would go off because the circuit would be broken. Ergo, I still don't see why smoke detectors need to be replaced every ten years except to keep us buying new ones. I call shenanigans.

I can see the light diode based smoke detectors failing early: either the LED's burn out or get full of dust, but then again, that would cause the alarm to go off.

Only the ten-year-battery models have sure fire built in obsolescence, so much so that if they fail early, you might only find out when your house burns down.

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