marriage laws

Thursday, November 4th, 2010 12:07 am
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A few South Carolina marriage laws...

No man shall marry his mother, grandmother, daughter, granddaughter, stepmother, sister, grandfather's wife, son's wife, grandson's wife, wife's mother, wife's grandmother, wife's daughter, wife's granddaughter, brother's daughter, sister's daughter, father's sister, mother's sister, or another man.

No woman shall marry her father, grandfather, son, grandson, stepfather, brother, grandmother's husband, daughter's husband, granddaughter's husband, husband's father, husband's grandfather, husband's son, husband's grandson, brother's son, sister's son, father's brother, mother's brother, or another woman.


(Are other states so specific?)
(If your son dies, is your son's wife still considered his wife?)
(If your son was secretly married, but then died, and you subsequently unknowingly married his former wife, it would apparently be illegal?)
(What about half-brothers and half-sisters?)

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SECTION 20-1-210. License required for marriage.
It shall be unlawful for any persons to contract matrimony within this State without first procuring a license as is herein provided and it shall likewise be unlawful for anyone whomsoever to perform the marriage ceremony for any such persons unless such persons shall first have delivered to the party performing such marriage ceremony a license as is herein provided duly authorizing such persons to contract matrimony. Any officer or person performing the marriage ceremony without the production of such license shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars nor less than twenty-five dollars or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days nor less than ten days.

SECTION 20-1-360. Effect of article on marriage without license.
Nothing contained in this article shall render illegal any marriage contracted without the issuance of a license.


So... It is illegal to get married without a license, and it's illegal to perform a marriage ceremony without a license, but the resulting marriage itself could still be legal? (as long as nothing in the other sections renders it illegal).

It surprises me that it is apparently illegal to get married in a private ceremony without state involvement. I thought that such a marriage was allowed, but that it would simply not be recognized by the state. But apparently even the act of getting married without state involvement (ie. without a state-issued license) is illegal.
But what exactly defines "marriage" and a "marriage ceremony"? If you call it something else, like a "wedding" or a "hand-fasting", or a "life-long commitment", does that make it legal?

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Fuck marriage and fuck laws. If I were to choose to get married to someone in a private or public ceremony, and/or in a religious ceremony (if I were religious), I sure as hell don't think the state has any right to say that it's illegal to do so.

So, it's not only that gay marriage is not recognized as valid under the law; it's actually illegal? You could theoretically get put in jail for having married someone by means of a non-legally sanctioned ceremony?

I supposed it shouldn't be surprising. Apparently the purpose of marriage is for sex, and there have been plenty of laws which made sex between various kinds of people illegal. So it follows that there would also be laws making marriage between various kinds of people illegal too.

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Wednesday, November 8th, 2006 08:58 am
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When I'm in doubt about an issue, my tendency is not to want to change the status quo. But it seems that other people generally prefer to vote "Yes" than "No" on just about anything. All 7 SC constitutional amendments passed by pretty large margins.

Well, 22% of the people here voted against the anti-gay marriage amendment. That's about one in 4 or 5. That means only about 3 out of every 4 people would hate me if I fell in love with a female and wanted to spend the rest of my life with her in a loving caring relationship.

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Monday, November 6th, 2006 08:58 am
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I bet the SC "anti-gay marriage amendment" is going to pass partially because few people even understand what the amendment does. I heard a dj on the radio mention that we'll be voting Yes or No on gay marriage. That makes it sound like there's a possibility of this vote making gay marriage legal. No, this vote will determine if the law against it will be written into the constitution or not. I heard a brief news clip mention that it is an amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Yes, but that isn't all it does. I haven't been consistently watching the news, so hopefully I'm wrong, but it sounds like very few people understand that the amendment will also outlaw the creation of any kind of civil partnership or domestic union for GLBT couples. In other words, it will make sure that GLBT couples are never legally recognized as couples (until the amendment is repealed, anyway) with rights and responsibilities towards each other. I suppose most people wouldn't even care about that distinction even if they understood it, though. They'd be against civil partnerships and domestic unions too. So I shouldn't be so upset about it.

Thinking about it makes me feel like moving out of this state. I don't want to pay taxes to this state, when this state's people are so bigoted. Except none of the other states are really much better, and none with a nice hot climate. Even in MA, it's still a controversial issue.

Oh god, people are so disgusting. The great majority of people are disgusting, in one way or another, no matter where you go. I'm probably disgusting to other people too. I should just focus on the very few people who aren't, in my view. Except they probably are, too.

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Sunday, October 22nd, 2006 05:33 pm
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SC will be voting on an amendment to the state constitution which would define marriage as being only between a man and a woman, and would prevent the establishment or recognition of any other kind of domestic union. It's been somewhat heartening to me that so far I've seen several yard signs and a few bumper stickers against the amendment, and only one for it. But this is South Carolina, so that probably doesn't mean much in terms of the eventual outcome of the vote.

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I wish we didn't have any plumbing problems in our house. I noticed recently that when our hot water heater was replaced earlier this year, not only was the old water heater left standing in the basement, but it is still full of water! So it's too heavy for me to move, and I'm not sure how to go about getting the water out without it all ending up on the basement floor.

The one shut-off valve under our bathroom sink is leaking slightly, so we keep a bucket underneath it. I already tried replacing the washer to fix it, but without success. And apparently it is an older style shut-off valve, so Lowe's didn't have the right piece to replace the entire thing.

We don't have a main shut-off valve for the water to the house, other than the city's one which is in a hole in the yard. So to turn it the water off, we usually first have to dig out a bunch of dirt from the hole where the turn-off mechanism is, to even reach the mechanism, and then use a special metal tool to turn it just the right amount in order for the water to be shut off.

Our toilet has been leaking water into the tank; it's a slight leak, but if we didn't turn the water to the toilet off inbetween flushes, it would lose about a tankful every hour. I've tried replacing the flapper several times, but it still leaks. Perhaps the entire flush valve needs to be replaced, but to do that one would need to remove the toilet tank, and that seems too complicated for me to try. At least considering that that is the only toilet we have in this house, and if I ran into difficulties with the replacement, we would no longer have a working toilet.

Part of the problem is that I have no experience in hiring plumbers. Forestfen usually asks one of her friends to help us out when we need house repairs. The one who has plumbing experience unfortunately has been rather busy. I could call a plumber myself, but I don't want to end up paying hundreds of dollars to get things replaced, and then discover later that the leaks were still occurring.

I want to get the house repainted too. And we have some water damage from a roof leak. I'm not sure how to go about getting those things fixed either.

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